Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has been accused of sexual assault by a young woman in Georgia, TMZ has learned.
The alleged incident occurred early this morning at Capital City — a club in Milledgeville, Georgia.
According to law enforcement sources, the alleged victim — who has already been interviewed by police — was treated at a local hospital and released.
This sounds very very very bad.
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March 5, 2010
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k Says:
I’m so tired of hearing about this guy and his ‘misadventures.’ Honestly, hating him makes me like Steeler football less and that makes me hate him even more.
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Dan (Not Onarato) Says:
Here we go again…unleash the fug bunnies for his defense
You’d think he’d learn
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kj Says:
Milledgeville, GA… What was he doing there?! Its 2 hours outside of Atlanta. I grew up in Georgia. There is nothing in Milledgeville aside from a lake, a walmart, and a small college. The local fruit stand has a sign that reads “fresh peches” thats how country that place is.
My best guess is he thought that’s the last place someone would recognize him.
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djh Says:
He has a place on the lake
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Pensgirl Says:
I just saw this headline elsewhere and thought I must have accidentally drifted to an archived page. That I didn’t is extremely depressing.
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Fuggly Ben Says:
@ kj
“My best guess is he thought that’s the last place someone would recognize him.”If Benny isn’t recognized as the quarterback of the Steelers, he ain’t gettin’ no action at all. Believe you me, he WANTS and NEEDS the skank-hos to recognize him.
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roxy Says:
kj- you answered the question yourself…”small college”. Small town college girls is what he thrives… Jackpot for Big Ben!
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bluzdude Says:
But how’s his arm?
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Confused Says:
Why does this keep happening to Ben and not other professional athletes with lots of $$$? You would think he would learn…..SMH
On a positive note, Dennis Dixon looked pretty good in the first four quarters of the Ravens game last year.
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mis Says:
I bet Jeff Reed is happy for the diversion.
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Jess Says:
Ugh. Peyton Manning would never do something like that…
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Lauren Says:
And yet Pittsburgh sports fans boo Crosby…
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Nay Nay Says:
@ Lauren , EXCELLENT point.
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cmd_45 Says:
I just don’t get the “Why” of this whole thing.
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Noe Says:
Jess, I’m pretty sure Payton Manning is Morman so that explains that one I guess.
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Luke Steelerstahl Says:
He’d better not rat me out!
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Pittsburgh Tom Says:
Just got home, turn on the news and it was on within minutes. They said his name wasn’t actually mentioned in the police report and his agent is saying the police are already dismissing this. There’s a press conference about to start.
I take a wait and see on stuff like this. Remember, even Michael Irvin was once FALSELY accused.
Of course, if Ben put himself in a position where a credible accusation (true or false) could happen, then he’s a idiot.
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steelersfan Says:
Where there is smoke; there is fire. Ben may know football; it does not block *stupid*
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Don Says:
Maybe now people will catch on the idea that Ben is an arrogant asshole who thinks the world should do his bidding.
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Beth P Says:
Really wonder if the Great Gazoo is sitting on Ben Roethlisberger’s shoulder these days. Dum-Dum, indeed.
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Bojack Says:
Innocent until proven guilty.
Lots & lots of money-grubbing, skank whores out there looking to collect.
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MN Says:
Peyton Manning is not Mormon, but he is married and apparently able to stay out of this kind of trouble!
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JJ Says:
Mr. RoethlisINberger? Really? That press conference was all kinds of ridiculous.
Either way he’s still a pig, an idiot and an asshole.
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Craig Says:
So, I live 30 miles from Milledgeville. I’ve heard about his visits here from friends who live down the lake from him and they have always been very complimentary about Ben. The college has grown quiet a bit and the downtown is more active that it has been in the past, here’s hoping that Ben hasn’t been.
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Pa-pop Says:
Pirate outfielder has a town named after him already?
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Jen Says:
Bojack, OJ was found not guilty in court, but that doesn’t mean I gotta agree with that decision or respect him. I’m not saying these allegations against Ben are true, but it is awfully fishy that he keeps getting into these situations. Worst-case scenario, he’s a serial sex offender. Best-case scenario, he’s a complete idiot. My guess is it’s something in-between (an idiot and disrespectful to women).
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Still A, Fan Says:
yes, mushmouth made an appearance down a’thar. i’ll wait and see what happens before i go off on anyone. i think think the big lug needs to settle down. we need one of them there high class match makers to get him hooked up so he won’t leave his house.
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Vivian formerly NY Luvs Pitts Says:
I just came across this on Google News. OMG!!!!! Why Benny, Why?
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bucdaddy Says:
Say what you want about Skippy, his sluts keep their mouths shut.
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Don Says:
>>>Lots & lots of money-grubbing, skank whores out there looking to collect.<<<
There are. And there are a lot of arrogant jocks out there who think they can just take what they want.
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atlpitt Says:
The state mental hospital is also in Milledgeville.
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Sexy Jesus Says:
First, I love Ben the QB. However, I’ve long thought that he and the mayor must share half a brain. Guess we know who had it last night!
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Vivian formerly NY Luvs Pitts Says:
This is what I get for laughing when I heard that Ochocinco was going to be on Dancing With The Stars earlier this week. smh
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Elmer Fudd Says:
Why has this guy not learned the fine art of covering your ass? When you have his money and fame there is always someone looking for an angle. Or maybe he is so arrogant he thinks he can do anything..
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Pierce H. Says:
How many of these guys have to be falsely accused of rape before you all stop assuming they’re guilty based on nothing more than the say so of some anonymous woman and before a scrap of evidence is admitted at trial? Remember Jerome Bettis? We won’t even mention that lacrosse team that was hung out to dry for a year (by a D.A. who was disbarred and a woman who was just arrested for attempted murder). But by all means, go ahead — rush to judgment, blame the guy who might just be the victim here, and convict him in the court of last resort, the blogosphere. Because some women nobody knows anything about, accused him. Pathetic!
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Bojack Says:
Thank you Pierce H.
Lousy whore skanks.
@Jen, @Don, @Steelersfan> you are all pathetic. Nothing but media sheep.
especially@Don> What, are you the lame retard who never got picked?
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YinzerInExile Says:
Ah Milledgeville. Ye eminently pyrrhic town.
/lives in GA; prays daily for the return of Sherman
Seriously: why would anyone assume that this woman is telling the truth?? Especially on the heels of Benny’s Recent (false) Unpleasantness . . . which proved to be total BS. The authorities haven’t even come out and made a statement leveling accusation. I’m with Ben until, you know, like, a trial . . . or something.
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john jake Says:
Nothing cracks me up more on this blog than when Ginny and the comments attempt to talk sports. Payton Manning a mormon? Suggesting dennis dixon is a viable alternative?
Pierce and Bojack, you can “lousy skank” this story all you want but the fact of the matter is, there are 31 other starting QBs in the NFL and last I checked none have them have been accused of this type of behavior.
Being a professional means handling yourself in a manner where you don’t even put yourself in these types of situations.
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Bojack Says:
@John Jake>
Hey, how’s that child molesting charge you have working for you???
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Moe the Dog Says:
@ Yinzer in Exile – nothing from his first “unpleasantness” has been proven to be false or BS. And, the authorities have come out and said he was identified as the perpetrator.
The interesting part is that the victim went to the hospital where she was treated and they collected ‘evidence’.
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Craig Says:
An interesting quote from the local paper this morning, “the official police report, which describes the suspect as a “white male, with brown hair and brown eyes, 6-foot-5 inches tall and 241 pounds.” If you check the Steelers website roster, those are Ben’s listed numbers. I think it’s a bit odd that although he was not “named” in the report that anyone would come up with the exact numbers listed by the team. By the way, the legal drinking age in Georgia is 21.
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Bojack Says:
@Moe the Dog>
By your just downright stupid remarks, I know which posting
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Bojack Says:
@Craig>
Really Craig????? Wow.
Do you successfully locate your dick 6 mornings out of seven???
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Craig Says:
@Bojack
I’m usually seven for seven. Not sure why you asked, really!
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Kevin Says:
Nothing brings out the Steeler Nation infighting like sexual assault allegations.
Let’s move on to the bigger issue here: Sports by Brooks, via Mondesi’s House, is saying lineman Willie Colon was with Ben the night the alleged assault happened.
Here’s the problem: Our line can’t even block a 20 year old college girl.
“Playoffs? PLAYOFFS!?!?!”
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Bojack Says:
@Craig>
I was marveling at your amazing powers of deduction. A shrewd fellow like you should get 6 out of 7.
But 7 / 7 ?? C’mon now Craig.
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Greg Says:
At the end of the day…
Ben has the presumption of innocence and the girl could be lying. On the other hand, she could be telling the truth. We should withhold judgment until all the facts are in.
Also, he is stupid for even putting himself in a position in which he could be accused.
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Jen Says:
Bojack, why do you always resort to personal attacks when somebody doesn’t agree with you? Virginia is always respectful of her commenters’ opinions, even if they differ from her own. I suggest you show her the same respect by not turning her blog into the same old nasty hate-fest the rest of the internet seems to devolve into.
I was pointing out that not everyone who is found not-guilty in court is necessarily innocent, and that some people who are innocent of committing a crime are nonetheless behaving in a way I do not respect. If you don’t agree with that, fine, but don’t call me names for disagreeing with you.
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Bojack Says:
@Jen>
So, PLEASE go to the dictionary (that’s the thicker book) and look up “implications.”
That is what you did. So you therefore have put forth an opinion
which in a free society and free press invites response, get it?@Greg> So, because there are money-grubbing, scam-whores
out there more than eager to prey on a celebrity athlete he should stay at home? Or only venture out with clergy?
Wait, clergy is no guarantee either right Jimmy Swaggart?I think not, burn the witches.
@Jen> If the moniker fits…
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Bojack Says:
@Jen>
You have NO idea how Ben was behaving/////////
You have ZERO accurate, reliable, verifiable information
besides a news report of a complaint by someone who was at the same venue he was.Yet you are ready to pass judgement, presume the worst, and even if innocent AGAIN, disapprove in general. What the fcuk??
How does that level of narrow-minded lack of intelligence do anything BUT invite insults?
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Bojack Says:
@Jen> It scares me you have a drivers license.
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Bojack Says:
@Jen>
I take that back, presuming the worst is a good trait when driving.
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YinzerInExile Says:
@40 Moe: The last I’d heard about Bennie’s Recent Unpleasantness was that her coworkers had made statements that she’d come in all excited and tap dance-y that she’d scored, and was then subsequently bragging that she thought she might be preggo. I mean, I’m willing to cut all kinds of slack for strange behavior after sexual assault, however I draw the line at bragging about it to coworkers. To my knowledge, a criminal investigation was never even opened, as hers was a civil complaint for damages so I guess, technically, the only thing that ever stood to be proven was whether or not she could act up enough tears for big ole paycheck.
Given that sort of recent shadiness, I can’t help but side a wee little (at least) with Ben, giving him the benefit of the doubt that maybe — just possibly — he’s a bit of a mark at the moment.
Now, if authorities come back and actually *use* Ben’s name in conjunction with an evidence-based accusation, then I’ll be more inclined to give this story some credence.
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Bojack Says:
@Yinzer>
That’s what I’m sayin’.
Evidence, facts n’at.
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Greg Says:
Bojack:
I never said he should stay home or only venture out with clergy. Nice use of hyperbole though.
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Bojack Says:
I want to see jail time for perjury, false statements to police.
Not nearly enough vigorous prosecution of these filthy, lying whores.
It’s fraud, and conspiracy to defraud, and extortion.
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Pierce H. Says:
Some of you people astound me. Some of you assume he must have done it because, after all, he was accused. Others say that even if she lied, he was stupid for putting himself in this situation (try telling an actual rape victim she’s to blame for her rape and see the reaction of the women’s groups – “victim blaming” and all that – yet somehow it’s different if a woman is trying to destroy a male celebrity with a lie).
Every impartial, objective study ever done on the subject shows false rape claims are a significant problem. As reported by “False Rape Allegations” by Eugene Kanin, Archives of Sexual Behavior Feb 1994 v23 n1 p81(12), Professor Kanin’s landmark study of a mid-size Midwestern city over the course of nine years found that 41 percent of all rape claims were not just false but recanted. The number of false claims might actually be much higher. Kanin also studied the police records of two unnamed large state universities and found that in three years, 50 percent of the 64 rapes reported to campus police were determined to be false.”
See also, E. Greer, The Truth Behind Legal Dominance Feminism’s ‘Two Percent False Rape Claim’ Figure, 33 Loyola of Los Angeles Law Review 947, a scholarly law review article that debunked the standard rape advocate canard that only two percent of all rape claims are false by tracing it to its unreliable source.
In addition, a massive Air Force study in 1985 studied 556 rape allegations. It found that 27% of the accusers recanted, and an independent evaluation revealed a false accusation rate of 60%. McDowell, Charles P., Ph.D. “False Allegations.” Forensic Science Digest, (publication of the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations), Vol. 11, No. 4 (December 1985), p. 64.
See also, “Until Proven Innocent,” the widely praised (praised even by the New York Times, which the book skewers, as well as almost every other major U.S. news source) and painstaking study of the Duke Lacrosse non-rape case. Authors Stuart Taylor and Professor K.C. Johnson explain that the exact number of false claims is elusive but “[t]he standard assertion by feminists that only 2 percent” or sexual assault claims “are false, which traces to Susan Brownmiller’s 1975 book ‘Against Our Will,’ is without empirical foundation and belied by a wealth of empirical data. These data suggest that at least 9 percent and probably closer to half” of all sexual assault claims “are false . . . .” (Page 374.)
In short, every objective study ever conducted on the prevalence of false rape claims reveals that they are a significant problem. By any measure, rushing to judgment against Ben based on a lone accusation in a case none of you know anything about is not only stupid, it’s dishonest, unjust, and, yeah, unAmerican.
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Bojack Says:
@Jen & all of you “presumers”>
For you to automatically assume Ben is guilty is as preposterous
as saying-“If she was out at a bar drinking, she was obviously ASKING FOR IT.”
get it?
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Mary Says:
Seriously, I was having “Dukes of Hazzard” flashbacks when watching the sheriff’s press conference.
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The Maestro Says:
Well however this story develops, WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET BEN A RAZOR?
I swear, that grubby and stubby look on his face is enough to warrant a conviction for Felony Fugliness.
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Politicalpartypooper Says:
“In addition, a massive Air Force study in 1985 studied 556 rape allegations. ”
Not to change the subject, but WITF was our Air Force doing a massive study about rape allegations for?
I think that line belongs in Alice in Wonderland. Or, we could plug in our favorite Proper Noun, as in
“In addition, a massive Aunt Jemima’s study in 1985 studied 556 rape allegations.”haawwmmmmm…..haawwwmmmmm…hawwmmmm…I be channeling me some McCarthy.
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Carpetbagger Says:
No matter whether Bamm-Bamm is guilty or innocent, he’s guilty of being “country dumb.”
Five weeks from now, the Steelers might want to take a QB somewhere in the first 4 rounds of the draft. Bamm-Bamm has taken a lot of hits–both on and off the field. Charlie Batch is a few years away from being on a coaching staff. There needs to be someone in the wings.
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gunnlino Says:
@ PIERCE H. ;
First, stop and a a breath now and then.
Secondly, nice research Dude ! Do I smell some legal training in there somewhere ?
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unsatisfied Says:
whoever said above that benny should settle down and all of this crap would go away — I think you’re right. that would totally work — just like for tiger woods.
oh, wait…..
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Chris Says:
Jeff Reed and Ben make it difficult to root for the Steelers. Thank god for Troy.
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Steverino Says:
Seriously, this guy is getting a little long in the tooth to be hanging out in college bars. These jocks never really leave the frat boy mentality, and they are mostly still children mentally. Big fat children, but still children. He knows he can have almost any man or woman he wants, so it must be an ego thing. These things just happen too much with this child. Even if there was no assault, his pattern of anonymous sex screams that he’s a pig.
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Jen Says:
oh, I get it. Bojack is the requisite forum troll. no good blog would really be complete without one. sorry, that was my bad.. I’ll stop feeding him now.
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Jen Says:
Pierce H.,
No, I don’t think being accused of rape is comparable to being raped. Rape is a physical violation of another person. Being falsely accused of a crime, or even falsely convicted of a crime is not the same as rape, in my opinion. Yours may differ, but to me the only thing worse than rape is murder.
You say we shouldn’t rush to judgement against Ben based on a lone accusation, but this isn’t a lone accusation. This is the second accusation. Why don’t we see the same multiple accusations against other high-profile athletes? With a pattern of accusations forming, it makes you wonder. I am not saying I think he’s guilty, I’m just saying that you have to consider the fact he might be guilty, and not dismiss his accuser as a “whore” or “slut” outright.
I agree that the evidence that has been made public in the first accusation (never filed a criminal complaint, waited over a year, friends who said she told them it was consensual, etc.) doesn’t seem to substantiate the woman’s claim. However, the circumstances of this accusation are different (immediate reporting to police and immediate medical treatment).
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Bojack Says:
Ever read The Crucible?
Salem witch trials??
Since when does the mere presence of multiple accusations produce veracity in and of itself?
In the minds of morons, that’s where.
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Bojack Says:
@Mike-
Why aren’t you “troubled” by slanderous, harmful, false accusations? twit
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Bojack Says:
@Mike>
One more time for Mikey and the other s-l-o-w people-
the mere presence of an accusation(s) means nothing.
except to idiots.
OK, s-l-o-w-l-y….. celebrities, (that’s athletes too for you tards)
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mis Says:
Goodness folks, calm down and just wait and see what happens. We might never know the whole truth.
I am already sick of hearing about it on the news. How long can they go on and on and report absolutely nothing?If he did have sex with her (even if it was consensual) and there is dna evidence he is screwed.
I am wondering though why a 20 year old was in a bar, and not just one bar, a bunch of them.
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Politicalpartypooper Says:
Bojack,
The “mere” presence of an accusation means quite a bit, actually.
Whether it’s false or not is for the police to ascertain, not you or anyone else. When any accusation is made, it opens up a CASE, and I can assure you, the police aren’t acting as if that accusation means nothing.
What means nothing in this, or any case, is all of the opinion that follows it around. Did he or didn’t he? If cops are asking that question about a person, it’s pretty fucking serious.
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john jake Says:
Wow, the c-word? Really? Sorry I took this blog for an open exchange of opinions and debate.
@bojack must be some kind jock sniffer that wants to get in #7′s entourage. So, would you be turtle or johhny drama?
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PittCheMBA Says:
When is he going to learn? Fug Bunnies want a piece of his $100 Million contract.
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OldNorthSider Says:
Big Ben = BIG DUMB ASS. More troubling, our ‘Lil Boy Mayor idolizes both Big Ben & Tiger (future roomates at sex rehab?)!
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red pen mama Says:
What @mis said.
It was a couple of groups of people hanging out in a college town — BTW Ben lives nearby, he wasn’t looking for place where they didn’t know his name — Ben’s group, this woman’s group. Drinking (one group illegally).
Personally, I think having sex in a public bathroom would be pretty grosstastic. I think both Ben and this woman can safely be accused of bad decision making.
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Pierce H. Says:
It is simply not fair to make any assumptions about the accused or the accuser here. But it is well to note that this nation has a long and shameful history of rushing to judgment based on an accusation and assuming men and boys committed rape when it later turned out they didn’t. The reputational harm they suffer often destroys their lives. If Ben Roethlisberger were your father, son, husband, boyfriend, or brother, you’d want everyone to treat him as exactly what he is — presumed innocent.
Let’s take Jen’s astounding refutation of my comment: “. . . but this isn’t a lone accusation. This is the second accusation.” Aside from making me want to bang my head against the wall, I would add this: yes, Jen, we now have a second accusation — in a wholly separate, distinct case. The first was an accusation in a civil, not a criminal, case about which you, yourself, said “the evidence that has been made public in the first accusation . . . doesn’t seem to substantiate the woman’s claim.” Yet you are content to take that admittedly shaky accusation which has not resulted in even an adjudication of civil liability, coupled with this one about which NONE OF US knows anything about, to find a “pattern of accusations forming.” The dark and sinister innuendo concocted from such a weak brew is breathtaking.
I note in passing that the Scottsboro Boys had a “pattern” of accusations against them, too. Theirs is among one of the most shameful injustices in our history. Gerald Amirault also had a “pattern” of accusations against him — the palpable injustices against him in Massachusetts became a campaign issue in the recent election where the Democrats lost John and Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat.
But you need not go back very far if you’re searching for atrocities when it comes to false rape claims; you just need to recall recent news stories, which are reported in hushed tones because it’s a subject too politically incorrect to talk about out loud: The testimony of a false accuser in New York sent an innocent man to prison for a twenty year term based on no other evidence than her say so. Finally, the false accuser found religion, recanted, and he was released after four years of — you guessed it — the worst kind of prison atrocities. She was sentenced last week to three years in prison and landed on the front page of the New York Post.
This week, a serial false accuser in the UK named Gail Sherwood was sentenced to two years imprisonment. A woman’s group protested the fact that charges were even brought against her. Also this past week, a false rape claim at Penn State ignited a panic. When it turned out there was no rape, the university used the incident as an occasion to warn everyone to be careful of rapists. Go figure.
At Hofstra University recently, a student falsely accused four young men of gang-raping her in a dormitory bathroom. Based solely on her word and nothing else, and despite their strenuous denials, the young men were immediately arrested with bail set high enough to insure they wouldn’t get out. Only then did police bother to review the video evidence to find that she lied. She recanted, they were released, but she, of course, was not sentenced to any jail time. The poor thing lied because she didn’t want her boyfriend to know that she had willingly engaged in group sex.
Another New York girl recently accused three teens of rape, and even after she recanted, one of the teens spent months in prison.
In Richmond, California earlier this year, a 17-year-old girl’s rape lie landed the suspect, her boyfriend, behind bars for three days because she was angry at him for something. Weeks later, a 15-year-old girl falsely cried rape in the same town.
At Loyola U. recently, a student falsely claimed she was sexually assaulted by three fellow students. And a 32-year-old woman recently falsely accused three younger men and a juvenile male of raping her at a party. In Florida recently, a fifteen-year-old girl falsely accused four 17-year-olds of forcibly raping her. Another boy sits in jail over a rape allegation made by the same girl just the previous month.
Have you heard about the black woman who recanted her previous claim that she’d been gang raped by seven white men now serving prison sentences? Even Al Sharpton wants that recantation taken seriously — and that will tell you something. What about the group of four men cleared of gang raping a 21-year-old woman after they claimed she invited them back to her apartment and engaged in consensual sex? Or the 25-year-old woman who falsely claimed, in graphic detail no less, that six men (including her boyfriend) gang raped her? Or the 16-year-old schoolgirl who had the temerity to falsely accuse six of her male classmates of seriously sexually assaulting her multiple times over several hours on a playing field? Or the 25-year-old hairdresser who falsely claimed five men raped her, but her lie was uncovered when it was discovered that a phone camera had caught her in the act of having enthusiastic, consensual sex with two boys (yes, boys)? And I could go on and on.
Is Ben guilty? I have no idea. And neither do you. If it turns out he’s not, will all you who are rushing to judgment promise to come back and talk about that? You see, the initial rape report is big news. The fact that the accusation turns out to be false or that there is nsufficient evidence to bring charges is often grudgingly reported. When three University of Arkansas players were accused of an alleged rape incident at a fraternity, a local television station actually broke into the station’s regular programming to provide a four-plus minute breaking news report about the accusation. Needless to say, when the prosecutor decided not to bring rape charges against them, there was no similar coverage.
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Peg Says:
Pierce, you said:
“If it turns out he’s not, will all you who are rushing to judgment promise to come back and talk about that? You see, the initial RAPE report is big news.”
No one said rape, did they? Are you assuming rape?
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Pierce H. Says:
Peg, I do appreciate your ham-handed rhetorical trick of suggesting I am assuming a rape occurred — after I just wrote over 1,000 words, telling all of you not to do that very thing. You really showed me. But, hey, I am sure that sort of “argument” goes over big in Women’s Studies class. Let me guess: you aren’t really into this “presumed innocence” crap when it comes sexual assault accusations, are you? I mean, who needs it, right?
For those who don’t know what Peg is talking about (and trust me, it’s damn peculiar), I was, of course, referring to ANY initial report that a rape MUST have occurred because — heck, some anonymous woman, about whom nobody knows anything, has made a claim based on facts that haven’t been revealed. And then it turns out that it’s false or unfounded.
But thanks for clarifying that, Peg. Real helpful.
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SC 'Burgher Says:
@ Kevin: “Here’s the problem: Our line can’t even block a 20 year old college girl.” Priceless.
It’s one thing to be a college kid out at 2am and do something stupid, but an “adult” who is the face of a NFL franchise!?! Oi Vey!
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LaReina Says:
>>>“the official police report, which describes the suspect as a “white male, with brown hair and brown eyes, 6-foot-5 inches tall and 241 pounds.” If you check the Steelers website roster, those are Ben’s listed numbers.
Very suspicious. Besides, it’s the off season and Benny’s probably packed on a few extra pounds. I note the suspect was NOT described as 246 pounds! The case is sol-ved.
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JJ Says:
@bitter
You made me LOL! That was perfect! Just perfect!
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gunnlino Says:
The PITTSBURGH MEN’S BLOGGING SOCIETY, which was defunct but is now open to members only, had many many articles and much research on the truthfulness of sexual assault claims. Which would have been good fuel to pour upon this fire.
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LJP Says:
Regarding Peyton Manning. He’s no angel either; I know people in Indianapolis who say he’s got some stuff in common with a famous golfer in the news.
But Ben, Ben. Grow up. You are facing a civil case involving sexual assault. And you are still hanging out in bars picking up 20 year-olds that you don’t know. What is wrong with you? Either (1) you haven’t learned the lesson yet, (2) when you drink you become somebody we don’t want to know, or (3) you are too stupid to live. Whichever it is, get some counseling and stop screwing up your live, the lives of these bimbos who end up in your vacinity, and our football team.
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Carpetbagger Says:
You guys know that once you go into your fourth paragraph, we stop reading, right?
Blah, blah, blah….
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Baraboo Says:
@ Carpetbagger – no kidding. People quit writing essays. We don’t read them.
After this incident, and after coming across NUMEROUS accounts of Ben being rude to people and I’m done with this guy. I once could have been considered a fug bunny of this guy, or whatever it’s called.
But no more. Ben’s a douche. Can’t wait until he’s gone.
Thank God I love the whole team, otherwise I’d completely turn my back on the Steelers right now.
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bucdaddy Says:
I’m glad I’ll never run into any of you old “get off my lawn” f***s in the college bars I hang out in. You all know enough to stay home and drink your toddies in front of the TV, I guess. Who needs the night life? Who needs to boogie? As Dylan said, “EVerybody must stay home!” Or maybe I heard that wrong?
Sarcasm aside, whenever something like this happens (player gets shot, robbed, punched, arrested, killed etc.) I always ask: Was he outside a bar at 2 a.m. Saturday or outside a church at 10 a.m. Sunday?
And then I answer “Bar!” and I am (almost) never wrong. There WAS that kid on the Pitt football team several years ago who got drunk and tried crawling around in the rafters of a Catholic church, until he fell to his death. I recall the priest getting in some trouble over that.
Also, I vaguely recall some incident involving Carlton Haselrig at a church in Johnstown …
And then there was Skippy, in a … what was it, a Sheetz men’s room?
Anyway, I said ALMOST never wrong.
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DK Says:
Whoa. People calm down…Agree to disagree? The truth generally lies somewhere in the middle right? Just a point but why is it that football players seem to find themself in these situations, not hockey players, like our beloved Pens?
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L-A Says:
What Bitter said. Wowsa.
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Monty Says:
Can someone talk to the big fella for me and ask him to tack 20 minutes onto the end of my life to replace the last 20 minutes I spent reading the comments to this post?
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ScareHouse Scott Says:
Are you coming to bed?
I can’t! This is important!
What?
SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET IS WRONG!Yikers.
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butcher's dog Says:
You quit reading because the posts are too long? Seriously? Is the rest of your life true-false? Most of us live in a place where the tests are all essay and the races are marathons. Talk about microwave attention spans.
Let’s not forget what we learned from Forrest Gump: Stupid is as stupid does. Ben’s weekend doesn’t rank with Plaxico shooting himself in the leg, but he won’t be up for Mensa membership any time soon.
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GoBobbo Says:
I’m more disturbed that you quoted TMZ. *goes into corner and cries*
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Bojack Says:
LOL@ Butcher’s Dog & GoBobbo
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beaner Says:
@Bojack–your use of the r-word in this thread is more offensive than anything else. Grow the fuck up.
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kevin Says:
Good Thing Ben had some friends there to look out for his well being.No one in his “entorouge” felt he was putting himself in a bad spot? Great friends and great judgment under pressure Ben. What an idiot putting himself in a situation where this could even be a possibility. You dodge one bullet like this you are very fortunate, you’ve used up your mulligans Ben. Money and notoriety don’t equate to brains and common sense.
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Slick Says:
Starting off the coverage on Ben’s latest misadventure quoting TMZ was not the same type of effort shown the BRESMA coverage. I’m not fan of Ben off the field either, but this is clearly biased reporting. I know, it’s a blog, but this is exactly why blogging gets a reputation. I’m not equating one to the other, however, the same type of coverage should be given since both are serious issues.
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Sooska Says:
@DK commenter #89. You are new to this, right? You could look it up.
The aggressor is ALWAYS wrong.
Ben’s behavior, whether he is innocent or guilty in either or both cases, is indefensible. When you behave badly in public, or privately, you invite trouble. That goes for everyone.
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PA girl trapped in VA Says:
Since when does a players personal life make it hard to root for your team? Seriously? That is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard. Seriously. ….I’m not going to root for the Steelers because Ben was “accused” falsely of sexual assult. Or… I’m not going to root for the Steelers because … Jeff Reed was out drinking and punched a towel dispenser. That just sounds so stupid to me. Oh..I’m sorry, we’ve never done something stupid? I know I sure have and I am sure glad my family and friends never gave up on me. Or I’d be one lonely person! People, Ben is famous, he’s OUR quarterback, 2 time winning superbowl champ and somewhat good looking, so yes it’s true that woman are going to accuse him of sexual assult. I agree with others that let’s wait to presume judgement and there is a such thing as innocent before guilty…I know it’s hard, but it’s still law. Oh, and by the way, the reason Payton doesn’t get accused of this is because he’s ugly…even my mom wouldn’t accuse him of sexual assult…ha!
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unsatisfied Says:
@ pierce h — while I have no idea how you have the kind of time to write all that you did here – - I have to tell you how much I appreciate what you wrote.
and, I read the whole thing.
gee, I have more of an attention span than I thought…
it’s the most logical, even-handed item I have read in this thread to this point.
my question — and, I think it’s bucdaddy’s point, too — what if this didn’t happen (allgedly) at a bar? what if it happened (allgedly) at the mall? or, (allgedly), at a church? would ben be accused of being such an idiot/douchebag? would there be calls for him not to go to the mall? or, to church?
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unsatisfied Says:
and, yes, I know that I don’t know how to type “allegedly”. allegedly….
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Elmer Palmer Says:
My sources tell me that there was a third party involved here
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bucdaddy Says:
Um, no. My point was, 99% of the bad things that happen to athletes seem to happen when they’re at some bar, or standing in front of some bar, or leaving some bar early in the a.m., and I’m going to make a presumption that they are hanging around bars in the seedy and low-end parts of town, because you just don’t hear much about people getting robbed or shot or sexually assaulted at bars in, say, Sewickley or Fox Chapel (if they even HAVE bars in Sewickley or Fox Chapel), if you get my drift. Because people in most truly classy business establishments don’t generally show up heavily armed or have sexual assult accusations hanging over their heads.
Now just because you CAN go out and it OUGHT to be OK to go out and have a good time with your buddies wherever you want doesn’t mean you have to go OUT. By and large these are people who make $100s of thousands, if not millions of dollars a year. They could, most of them, have a Hooters built on to the McMansion they own and put up a pole and hire all the strippers they want and call up the entourage and have the boys over and make it rain and all that nonsense, right there at home.
And yet … they can’t resist the lure of strip clubs and gangster hangouts and college bars, where they make themselves targets.
I really don’t expect these choirboys to all get religion and start walking the straight and narrow and attending Sunday morning services and Wednesday evening Bible study (thought if they DID, it’s pretty much problem solved). But I’d like to think even the dumb ones would have more common sense.
And yet about once a week some moron athlete proves me wrong.
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tw Says:
Good point bucdaddy. That’s similar to the article Cook wrote in the pg http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10066/1040950-87.stm
Seriously…this guy is 28. Why is he partying with 19/20 year olds…especially after his encounter last year. He must have mush for brains b/c that’s just plain stupid to put yourself in that position.
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unsatisfied Says:
um, OK. so I was wrong. not my first time.
so, whom here when they were 28 didn’t go to a college bar? or, any bar, for that matter?
show of hands…..
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Bojack Says:
@beaner-
“r” word?
Get over it.
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tw Says:
at unsatisfied….i was a college girl (sorority in fact) and partied quite a bit, but NO, by the time I was 28 I frequented casual bars and had beers with friends but didn’t hang with the “college” group. I also married into a German family who is quite familiar with the drink and even they did not hang with that age group. Seriously, at that age that’s just sad. And it’s not about the drinking (you can drink plenty with the older crowd) it’s the company. do you remember what college kids were like?…i wouldn’t have wanted to hang with my younger self at 28!
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bucdaddy Says:
unsatisfied,
I live in Morgantown. Practically every bar in town is a college bar, so my options are not unlimited. But I guess it’s true that I don’t go to the ones that are STRICTLY college bars, with the drink-and-drown nights and the 50-cent pitchers and the lines out the door and all that. There are about four that I frequent most often and they all tend to attract a mixed clientele that includes college kids, with the possible exception of the rock club 123 Pleasant Street, and the people who come there are there much more for the music than to get sh*tfaced/laid/cause trouble.
So … I guess what I’m saying is, even in a college town there ought to be someplace you can go without attracting trouble, but then I’ve never enjoyed the kind of celebrity star-f*cker aura that surrounds a Super Bowl-winning QB. Maybe when you’re Ben, EVERY place is trouble.
So, yeah, there may be no safe place to go, and maybe because of that Ben shouldn’t try, for his own good and the good of his team, and just sit at home every night and eat popcorn and drink Coke and watch the Oscars and count his money or something, but really, it’s shame that he (or any famous person; I imagine George Clooney can’t just walk into any bar he wants without setting off an earthquake) is forced to avoid going places he wants to go.
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spoon Says:
you’re 28, a 2x Super Bowl champ… stay the hell away from dumpy college bars in bumblefuck georgia.
yeah it sucks you can’t go out to bars like everyone else but it sucks that I dont make your money have have 2 rings. deal with it ben and hire some strippers if you need to get your rocks off. Skippy can get you a deal
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Carpetbagger Says:
@ butcher’s dog
Believe it or not, the rest of my life is much different from the enlightening world of blog responses. I can read long books, articles, and journals.
Call me crazy, but I just make the personal choice not to spend my valuable time getting a legal education from such reputable sources as bojack, Pierce H., GoBobbo, or butcher’s dog.
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Typing Mom Says:
Some one should smack his along side his head and tell him to keep it in his knickers. Sheesh.
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Steverino Says:
And just to refute the inference from this morning’s Post-Gazette that Ben is, “a single young man who enjoys a night on the town.” On behalf of the male species, most single young men don’t go out with the night crawlers in sleazy bars until 3 am. Many actually have a greater respect for women, don’t try and get them drunk in order to take advantage, and may enjoy something a little deeper than what Ben usually seems to have on his mind.
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Bojack Says:
I’m still relishing “ham-handed rhetorical trick…..”
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Bojack_filter_Please Says:
Can we possibly get a Bojack Filter on the comments page??
What an Idiot… Maybe just an Idiot filter would work…
Please??
